The GUS Daily Digest Saturday, 20 May 1995 Volume 22 : Number 018 Today's Topics: The GUS and .... win95 4.11 drivers Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #15 Re: MAX memory chips Re: Record .mid -> .wav at 44kHz? Re: Windows 95 Lost Eden CD Where are the v4.11 drivers?...(please!) NMI and SBOS problems Sampling and playing a sample simultaneously SB+GUS, why you should; music notation, how you could. (If you felt , the urge to fill paper with dots and squiggles :> ) Joystick problems with ACE GUS V2.2 and GUS Max for sale. Drum machine software? Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #14 Full Throttle Ultrasound Interwave specs Full Throttle support... various questions (Windows, MegaEm303b) Windows NT drivers (I have a dream) USAIL310.ZIP The GUS411.ZIP saga GUS411.ZIP No MIDI in Windows with GUS. Please Help! Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Loren Kling (that's me) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 00:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The GUS and .... win95 I just installed version .468 and am getting to know WIn95. Of course, some questions that I haven't seen answers to: 1. The first few times I ran win95 after setup, my "win" wav file sounded scratchy and crashed Windows95. I went to the generic (but new and improved) Win95 sound and no problems.... so why do .wav's sometimes sound scratchy and distorted and then my Windows cratches? 2. Do protected games such as ROTT run in a Windows window or do you have to exit to DOS? When I tried to run ROTT, I got to the loading "tables" and then the system froze although I thought I could hear my hard drive running very very slowly. Then, nothing else worked. My gamestar didn't even work right. 2a. A friend has gotten ROTT to run in a window with no problem. What can I check? 3. Since the word on GUS drivers seems to be "when Windows is released", what are people doing in the mean time? Does megaem, SBOS, etc. work?-- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Loren Kling | * lkling@ucssun1.sdsu.edu * | SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ------------------------------ From: "W.H. Li" <130314@pc-lab.fbk.eur.nl> Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 10:13:16 +0100 Subject: 4.11 drivers Hi GUS owners I have heard that there are new drivers (4.11). Could someone upload the software to src.doc.ic.ac.uk (gopher), because I don't have FTP access. Edward ------------------------------ From: Ivar Svendsen Date: Fri, 19 May 95 10:45:36 METDST Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #15 To the PC200MKII user ... > Hi Gussers :) ! > > I've just bought a Roland PC200MKII Midi-Keyboard for my GUS-MAX, but I'm > not sure how to get this working :( > > I bought it along with a Midi kable for SB, and yesterday after trying > with several programs: Cakewalk demo ) From ShareWare disc > PatchManager \ > MidiSoft Recording Session | From Bonus Disks > Power Cords / > Make sure you send on the right channel * Press Midi Select * Press midi channel key 0-15 * Press Midi Select Also, make sure you play with an instrument * Midi Select * Pg key * Use numeric keys to give number * Enter key * Midi Select If you use the Midifier program you will be able to monitor if it works .... Keyboard is fun! Ivar Svendsen - ---- iva_sven@spirea.gih.no (Alpha Centauri/Mistery) ------------------------------ From: am7@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:38:59 +0200 Subject: Re: MAX memory chips Hi everybody! There is a MIRO graphics card using the MACH32 chip. My friend has the PCI version. It comes usually with 1Meg. The upcrade to 2MEg consists of two GUS MAX compatible chips. I tried it out myself and am going to get one for me and other GUSSER. Those chips should be more accessible around the world. Unfortunately they are a little more expensive, because they are around 40nsecs. Albi Tax increase at Microsoft: >From now on each task pays 17% more processor time to the operating system. http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~am7 (not much there yet) ------------------------------ From: am7@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:39:26 +0200 Subject: Re: Record .mid -> .wav at 44kHz? I used Recording Session to play and Goldwave 2.11 to record at 44kHz. It worked fine. Do not forget to set record DMA and playback DMA to different ones. I am not sure if that is needed for Midi playing, but it cannot hurt. Then do not turn up your input level (gain) to much. Then my GUS MAX starts getting noisy, too. Albi Tax increase at Microsoft: >From now on each task pays 17% more processor time to the operating system. http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~am7 (not much there yet) ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR CATTELL Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:46:27 GMT Subject: Re: Windows 95 I am currently struggling with Windows 95 Beta. My request is for help requarding software that does not load its own patches. I have read the FAQ for windows, but the advice about loading gus256,512,1024 etc for G.M. isn't much use as I cannot find a way of loading them. I currently trying to get Improvise 1.3 and one of the Wingames to produce sound. Thanks in anticipation - -- ARTHUR CATTELL ------------------------------ From: Tony "Fat Ferret" Carr-Smith Date: Fri, 19 May 95 13:15:54 BST Subject: Lost Eden CD Greetings, Anybody able to explain why the demo version of LOST EDEN CD which came with the PC ZONE worked (bit crackly) ok with SBOS but the real game gives no sound at all. Has anyone got any ideas how I can get full value for money and get sound to work on my GUS? Many thanks. tony@receptors.co.uk - the artist formally known as the Fat Ferret ------------------------------ From: Mr Jeremy J Parker Date: Fri, 19 May 95 13:52:38 BST Subject: Where are the v4.11 drivers?...(please!) I have looked high and low for the latest v4.11 drivers but with little success. I tried the ftp site ftp archive.orst.edu /pub/packages/ultrasound/submit and I found the text file 'gus411.txt' but no drivers! In the document it said that it: Does not include PowerChords or Recording Session. Does not include MIDI Patches. Does not include Mega-Em 3.xx. (Has a Mega-Em 2.07) Does not include MAXSBOS. (Has SBOS 3.82) Does anyone know where they are? Many thanx, Jez ------------------------------ From: "Oleg I. Kutsenok" Date: Fri, 19 May 95 16:59:03 +0400 Subject: NMI and SBOS problems Hi, there! I have a problem with installation and using GUS v.3.73. SETUP return "SBOS vector not functional" and SBOS driver - "NMI disabled on this P.C.". DOS applications don't work properly and don't emulate SB. With the help of MEGA-EM I run some soft, but not all. Even programs with their own ULTRASOUND driver don't want to work. Only demo and bonus soft coming with GUS. In WINDOWS is everything OK. Could somebody explain me what shall I do? Thanks in advance, Oleg Kutsenok ------------------------------ From: arjank@cs.kun.nl Date: Fri, 19 May 95 15:52:45 +0200 Subject: Sampling and playing a sample simultaneously Hello GUS-owners, I'm still struggling with the following questions: - - Is it possible with a GUS (or another soundcard) to sample on one channel and to play on the other channel simultaneously? * How fast must my hard disk, cpu, (local) bus etc. be? - - Is there software available for: - mixing sampled tracks - adding effects (delay, chorus, eq, etc) to a sampled track Please tell me anything (relevant) about the subject. Many thanks in advanced, Arjan. ------------------------------ From: Sam Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 15:06:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: SB+GUS, why you should; music notation, how you could. (If you felt , the urge to fill paper with dots and squiggles :> ) > Get real! Sure every game works with the damned Sound Bastard but > who the heck wants one? And on top of it I'm sure that every other > GUSer on this digest doesn't want to here an advertisment for the SB! It makes it easier to run games. Don't knock it. Since in all probability you can get one second-hand, it's a great way to make sure everything runs in some way. It also doesn't add to creative labs profits, if you are concerned about this :) In my opinion, the ultimate sound card solution at the moment is SB something + ACE. 100% compatibility as well as ultrasound quality. In the future (maybe) Win95 will make DOS a thing of the past, and since it includes native wavetable soundcard drivers (the facilities for; Gravis still have to write them) sound card incompatibilities will also be a thing of the past. > To tell you the truth .I kinda get kicks outta trying different ways > to get a game working with the GUS, and usually works excellent too. Yeah, well, each to their own. And some games, it really *is* impossible. I understand the point about if gus was sb compatible there wouldn't be any support at all. This might well be true. However now we're in the position of getting support in most games, and also; even if you do have an SB as well, are you going to be *pleased* when the game can only do FM music? I don't think so... Are you going to buy the next game from the same company with the same music drivers? I don't think so... There's still pressure for GUS support. > Subject: Midisoft > > Midisoft? Nah... Are there any shareware or demo programs out there > that can print out music notation from a midi? Noteworthy Composer. My brother registered it, so it must be good. I think the file is nwc????.zip. It's probably on CICA or SIMTEL archives (runs under windows of course). Sam [] http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d405ua <[ Web pagE ]> *NEW* Sysex Manager ! [] [] For Software Forge program information and downloads [] Including [] [] NETRIS 1.1 best Tetris game <[ For Win 3.1 ]> Sysex Manager 1.0S [] ------------------------------ From: hastings@gasp.dseg.ti.com Date: Fri, 19 May 95 10:06:12 CDT Subject: Joystick problems with ACE Help!!! I bought an ACE to go with my SB16. Now my Flightstick pro buttons no longer work (any of them). If I disable the joystick port on the SB16 card, microsoft's MSD still detects a game port. If I remove the ACE card, the problem disappears. Obviously the ACE has no game port. My settings are SB16 IRQ 5, address 220, DMA 1 and 5. ACE IRQ 11, address 250, DMA 6. Since I bought the ACE to make games sound better, I'll have to take it back if I can't get the joystick working with it. Thanks for any suggestions. clint ------------------------------ From: Gunnar Swanson Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GUS V2.2 and GUS Max for sale. Fellow GUSers, Due to the fact that I do not think that it is possible to get my SB16 SCSI and GUS to coexist in the same machine I will be selling my GUS and GUS Max. Both cards have one meg of DRAM and I have all of the original software packaging. If you are interested I would let the GUS go for say $50.00 and the Max for $135.00 I would let both go for $175.00. Shipping would be vis FedEx COD and yes you would have to pay for shipping. Serious offers only. All of the above is moot if someone can tell me how to get the SB SCSI and the GUS to coexist. Thanks, Gunnar Swanson gunnar@mail.unc.edu ------------------------------ From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 08:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Drum machine software? Rather than blowing $800 on a Roland Human Rhythm Composer, are there any drum machine software that I can use for the GUS? Thanks. -Peter ------------------------------ From: Will Dormann Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 12:41:26 -0400 Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #14 >Get real! Sure every game works with the damned Sound Bastard but >who the heck wants one? And on top of it I'm sure that every other >GUSer on this digest doesn't want to here an advertisment for the SB! >We as GUS users have evolved to a new level of audio appeciation, >nothing that a Creative Labs sound card (include AWE32) could hope to >obtain! I had an SB... sold it. >To tell you the truth .I kinda get kicks outta trying different ways >to get a game working with the GUS, and usually works excellent too. >oing out and buying an SB won't help your problems or ours. It only >contributes. 'Why support any other sound cards the SB seems to be >selling good at the moment! And hell we can use the same code from >our last twenty games... ' - I can just here the programmers >chatting. >GUS rules... SB sucks... >That's my opinion but I have a feeling I'm not the only one. Hooray! I couldn't have said it better myself ! It is amazing that people don't know of any other sound cards than the Sound Bastard. I love my GUS! I don't see why the SB keeps living. It's old technology, and it sux. Long live the GUS! ------------------------------ From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 21:47:33 +0100 Subject: Full Throttle I just wanted to say that if FT don't support GUS native, then I've had it. I'm gonna buy a Creative-mutant. EmilR, Norway "Words are turds!" *****THE_FANCY_SIGNATURE****** * Realtime:Emil Rakoczy * * Nickname:Lurking Puppet * * IRC:Lurking * * E-Mail:emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no* ******To be expanded...******* ------------------------------ From: campbell@fox.nstn.ca (Chris Campbell) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 21:47:59 -0300 Subject: Ultrasound Interwave specs If anyone has the specs on this card, would you be so kind as to mail them to me? I didn't see any in the FAQ... *************************** IRC: Popcorn - Hornet / TraxWeekly Editor Chris Campbell - Port Hawkesbury, Nova Scotia... Canada -Check out the Hornet archive on ftp.cdrom.com in /pub/demos- -Check out the TraxWeekly homepage at http://kosmic.wit.com/~kosmic/traxweek- **************************** ------------------------------ From: "Ignatius Tam (Mr. Tam)" Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 20:09:21 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Full Throttle support... Forwarded message: > > From: Bart Meijer > Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:33:26 +0000 > Subject: Full Throttle > > Hi there, > > I got this reaaly cool Full Throttle CD demo, but it's really boring > without sound, I've tried SBOS/MAXSBOS/MegaEM on my GUS > and even tried to use Dark Forces iMuse drivers, but I can't get any > of them to work, every time results in a automatic reboot. Full Throttle is out! saw the box says supporting gus, seems they've a stable iMuse driver for later Lucas games. can't play the game tho since i don't have a machine right now ... :( - -iGnatius - -- @------------------------------------------------------------------------@ | /\ /\ MarToPigGus!!(tm) YoUr DreaMing piGG meaT iS heRe! | | / -- \ conTaCT yOur lOCal deALeR!! __iGnatius tAm___ | | | . . u| e-mail: tam@cs.ualberta.ca / itam@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca | | | __ | personal homepage: http://ugweb.cs.ualberta.ca/~tam | | | < .. > | GUS digest: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html | | \______/ phone: 403-433-3187 | @------------------------------------------------------------------------@ ------------------------------ From: "Joe Granto" Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 22:33:50 +0000 Subject: various questions (Windows, MegaEm303b) I have just upgraded my computer to a P5-100, and have run into several problems with my GUS/MAX. This card used to work perfectly in my old machine, by the way. Problem 1: MegaEm 3.03b no longer works. It locks the computer as it tries to load the patches. The old MegaEm (2.03?) works fine. Problem 2: Sound with the old MegaEm is ood, but not great. There are occasional buzzing sounds in the background. This occurs in games like TIE Fighter. Everything else seems to be working just fine. There are no interrupt conflicts; I have fixed those. If anyone out there has any suggestions, I would appreciate it. I _really_ want to get MegaEm 3.03b working again... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Granto GLOCK@chip.cba.ufl.edu "When the going gets tough, the tough get a GLOCK!" --Guns & Ammo "Don't clock'em, GLOCK'em!" --Miami Dade police officer - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Dave@Turbonet.com (David L. Sargent) Date: Fri, 19 May 95 19:49:16 Pacific Daylight Time--100 Subject: Windows NT drivers (I have a dream) Is this only a silly dream of mine? Will I forever have to keep Windoze for Weakgroups on my blessed NT driven machine just to use my GUS? Will Gravis see the light? Translation, can anyone help me ? ? ? ? ? If anyone knows anybody (or has even heard a whisper of, some GUS MAX Windows NT drivers I'd kiss your . . . well, I'd be a mighty happy man. Thankes. D. L. Sargent You, and only You, are responsible for your choices. Choose wisely, for choosing now may prevent you from choosing later. DLS ------------------------------ From: "Jurassic Mark" Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 00:08:51 -0300 Subject: USAIL310.ZIP >From: Jon Vogel >Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 10:22:27 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: ftp site for usail310.zip > >Could someone point me to an ftp site with usail310.zip? I couldn't find >it on orst or epas... what's with those sites anyway? Seems like a lot >of the files in the index are missing. ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/ibmpc/ultrasound Try that site and I think you'll find the file in the "gravis" subdirectory. At least that's where I found it. If you still can't find it, let me know. I'll ship a copy to you. Jurassic Mark (Marc Y. Paulin) Mail: markus@nbnet.nb.ca - IRC: J-Mark WARPing and GUSsing!!! ------------------------------ From: "Jurassic Mark" Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 00:12:49 -0300 Subject: The GUS411.ZIP saga >> I deleted the file, grabbed gus411.zip from submit at orst (same length, >> date, etc.), and tried to unzip. My unzipper reported an error this >> time, and wouldn't unzip it. Very strange. > >I believe the file is bad. > >[F:\gus]unzip gus411 >Archive: gus411.zip > End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not > a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the > latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on > the last disk(s) of this archive. > > >1 archive had fatal errors. There are two gus411.zip on epas. At least, there was. One was incomplete and around 300K in size. The other one, GUS411.ZIP (note the CAPS), is the one I uploaded and is complete. It's aroudn 3megs in size. That's the one you should download. Jurassic Mark (Marc Y. Paulin) Mail: markus@nbnet.nb.ca - IRC: J-Mark WARPing and GUSsing!!! ------------------------------ From: "Jurassic Mark" Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 00:06:42 -0300 Subject: GUS411.ZIP >From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) >Date: Thu, 18 May 95 0:19:41 HST >Subject: gus411.zip - strange problems > >I finally decided to update my GUS drivers; since mine are 3.11, I >figured the move to 4.11 would be a full version upgrade:-) >So, I grabbed gus411.zip from submit at epas, downloaded it, unzipped >it (unzipped OK), tried to install it; got an installation error ('error >220', or something equally descriptive). Then, when I looked at the >directory, I saw that the *zip* file had somehow grown from 284K to >something like 3 meg! I immediately thought: virus. However, I scanned 3 megs is the right size for GUS411.ZIP. That's the size of the file I downloaded and uploaded to epas and that's the same file that I installed here and everything works fine. It's the full GUS stuff minus the patches since they've not changed. Jurassic Mark (Marc Y. Paulin) Mail: markus@nbnet.nb.ca - IRC: J-Mark WARPing and GUSsing!!! ------------------------------ From: Will Dormann Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 23:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No MIDI in Windows with GUS. Please Help! Hello! I recently noticed a problem in Windows. I can't get programs to recognize that a MIDI device is installed on the system! I remember getting it to work before, but now it is not working. The only program that recognizes the GUS as a MIDI device is Media Player. all other games and programs do not. I did make some changes on my system, but unfortunately I do not know exactly when the problem started. :( I did: Upgrade GUS software to version 4.11 from 3.59 from 3.56. Add a SCSI CD-ROM. Add and remove (for obvious reasons!) a Thunderboard soundcard. I tried reinstalling the older versions of the GUS software and changing the GUS settings, but nothing worked. I have a rev. 2.2 GUS with settings of: GF1 IRQ: 15 DMA: 5 SB/MIDI IRQ: 5 Port: 220 Does anyone have any ideas why I can't get MIDI sound in windows? Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated!! Thanks! Will Dormann wdorman@sprite.gremlan.org wdormann@one.ccsd.k12.pa.us ------------------------------ End of The GUS Daily Digest V22 #18 *********************************** To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP Sites Archive Directories --------- ------------------- Main N.American Site: ftp.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/ibmpc/ultrasound Main Asian Site: nctuccca.edu.tw PC/ultrasound Main European Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound Main Australian Site: ftp.mpx.com.au /ultrasound/general /ultrasound/submit South African Site: ftp.sun.ac.za /pub/packages/ultrasound Submissions: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound/submit Newly Validated Files: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound Mirrors: garbo.uwasa.fi mirror/ultrasound ftp.st.nepean.uws.edu.au pc/ultrasound ftp.luth.se pub/msdos/ultrasound Gopher Sites Menu directory ------------ -------------- Main Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound WWW Pages --------- Main Site: http://www.xmission.com/~grue/gus.html Main European Site: http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/ultrasound/ Main Australian Site: http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/general/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/submit/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/gravis.html Mirrors: http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/pub/pc/ultrasound/ GUS Digest Archives: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html http://www.student.adelaide.edu.au/~godfathr/gus/gus.html MailServer For Archive Access: Email to Email to New Submit Files Mailing List: Email to with content "subscribe epas-list " Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (programmers, musicians, etc.).